Michael Jackson may be dead

[Telstar5]

but at least his face won't biodegrade for another 500 years

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[Charlo]

That was in bad taste, but I smiled regardless.  

[HarryCaray]

I owned this girl who said "I'll see you in Heaven Michael" by saying Michael Jackson converted to Islam (which he did) and the Bible says, Exodus 22:20; “He who sacrifices to any god but the Lord only, shall be utterly destroyed.”

Boom. Owned. MJ isn't going to Heaven.

[GMG Mike]

I owned this girl who said "I'll see you in Heaven Michael" by saying Michael Jackson converted to Islam (which he did) and the Bible says, Exodus 22:20; “He who sacrifices to any god but the Lord only, shall be utterly destroyed.”

Boom. Owned. MJ isn't going to Heaven.

Who is to say the Christian bible is the right one? Maybe the Islam is correct and all the non-Islam people will go to hell.

[HarryCaray]

I don't believe in any religion, so to me none are right. The girl said, "if you happen to be a Christian, its God's job to judge, not ours", she was also the one who said "I'll see you in Heaven Michael". So, I used the Bible, (which she believes in) to prove herself wrong.

[GMG Mike]

Dámnit. You were supposed to reply and accuse me of blasphemy or some such, so we could start a new Holy War.

[HarryCaray]

Too bad I'm not a Holy person.

[Gan]

She was wrong in saying that it isn't our job to judge. It is our job to judge:

How many times have you heard someone whine, "Judge not, that ye be not judged?" This verse of Scripture from Matthew 7:1 is often quoted out of context by people who are terrified at the idea of someone preaching against sin or pointing out any form of error in anyone, especially in themselves.

As I stood in a voting line one day I overheard a woman justifying her foolish choice for president by saying, "Well, we aren't supposed to judge." Imagine that! Choosing NOT to judge a political candidate on election day! No wonder our nation is in such a mess!

As for Matthew 7:1, the context (verses 1-5) allows judging after you have first judged YOURSELF. Jesus did not make a blanket statement against judgment. He simply pointed out a RULE for judging.

Now, the word "judge" in its various forms (judgeth, judging, judgment, judges, etc) is found over 700 times in God's word. One whole book of the Bible is titled "Judges" for it was written at a time when God raised up judges to lead His people.

As we are about to see, God EXPECTS His people to judge. In fact, you are sinning against God if you refuse to judge! (Read that again, please)

God's Rules for Judging

Now I do not wish to imply that we should spend all of our time judging. Sometimes people judge when they have no business doing so. In John 7:24 Jesus tells us to judge RIGHTEOUS judgment. This can only be done by following the rules that God has established in His word. Here follow seven good rules from Scripture:

Judge Scripturally

Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Our standard is God's word, not our feelings, our traditions, or our opinions. Right and wrong should always be determined by God's word.

Don't Judge When God's Word Is Silent

If God's word is silent about a subject, then you may not have to judge at all. Don't rush to judgment on an issue when the Bible says very little or is silent about it. Don't make more of a matter than God makes of it. A good example of this is found in Colossians 2:16: "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" That is, these are not subjects of great importance today, so let's not make these great issues of judgment.

-Gandolf

[GMG Mike]

So then you are religious Gandolf? Or just quoting more stuff?

[HarryCaray]

There you go Mike, attack!

[Gan]

Absolutely.


-Gandolf

[WarHampster]

Someone please lock this before it turns into another flame war.

[Gan]

I won't flame. Though I'm unsure about any other of you guys.


-Gandolf

[HarryCaray]

I'm not a flamer, I'm straight.

[Xiphos]

Hah your all flaming.
Damn Harry beat me to it.