HTML5 Docs - I need your input

[Gan]

Pretty cool facts.

[Connors]

That actually makes perfect sense.

Metaprogramming is the generation of higher-order programs which, when executed, produce programs (possibly in a different language, or in a subset of the original language) as a result.

[x]

I disagree with 2-4, slightly.

2. It also existed before lambda--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

3. Alonzo Church & Stephen Cole Kleene only lay the foundations for programming. What about McCarthy who invented Lisp? Or Haskell Curry, who is behind the lambda and functional programming?! OR ALAN TURING?!!!! Or even Ada Lovelace who was rocking it back in the early 1800s.

4. Its a compiler. "A compiler is a computer program (or set of programs) that transforms source code written in a programming language (the source language) into another computer language" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiler
Metaprogramming is slightly different. Its anything that produces, or modifies source code, at /run time/. Compilation happens before run time. A good example would be genetic programming or C macros: #define blah int blah = 10;

[Gan]

Mmmmm, Ada Lovelace. She was quite the woman.

[x]

Mmmmm, Ada Lovelace. She was quite the woman.

I'll say. Did you know theres a programming language based on her stuff, and named after her.

[Connors]

I remember looking up "quine" because of an XKCD strip. It's a program that produces it's entire usable source code as the output. When you think about it it would be difficult to do.

[x]

I remember looking up "quine" because of an XKCD strip. It's a program that produces it's entire usable source code as the output. When you think about it it would be difficult to do.

Yeh, its crazy. Genetic programming is equally as crazy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_programming

[Gan]

Mmmmm, Ada Lovelace. She was quite the woman.

I'll say. Did you know theres a programming language based on her stuff, and named after her.

Beauty and intelligence. Some say she was the first programmer.

[Connors]

Yeh, its crazy. Genetic programming is equally as crazy

I remember a video with a robot, where it has no idea what shape it is, and using an accelerometer in the middle it tests each motor repeatedly to find out what it's own construction looks like (very accurately!) and then the computer running it runs a series of simulations using an evolution-based system to simulate it walking and find the fastest way to walk across the table. So it's learning to walk, starting from the very beginning. I wish I could remember where it was, it was a little four-legged robot (so eight motors) with the sensor in the middle. It was walking with one foot pointed right at the goal so it wound up holding the two legs on the side up in the air (it didnt need them) and moving in a sort of smooth worm-like pattern rather than the sort of spidery walk you'd expect, because that's more efficient.

[Gan]

I waaaaaannaaa seeee!

[Connors]

And I wanna find it but I can't. I think it was somewhere on TED.com

[GMG Kurt]

I disagree with 2-4, slightly.

2. It also existed before lambda--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

3. Alonzo Church & Stephen Cole Kleene only lay the foundations for programming. What about McCarthy who invented Lisp? Or Haskell Curry, who is behind the lambda and functional programming?! OR ALAN TURING?!!!! Or even Ada Lovelace who was rocking it back in the early 1800s.

4. Its a compiler. "A compiler is a computer program (or set of programs) that transforms source code written in a programming language (the source language) into another computer language" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiler
Metaprogramming is slightly different. Its anything that produces, or modifies source code, at /run time/. Compilation happens before run time. A good example would be genetic programming or C macros: #define blah int blah = 10;

Well if it existed before Lambda then that wikipedia article I read was wrong.
But doesn't it transform the code into javascript, and then execute that? it's acting like the C macros, in that it translates all the code, and then compiles and runs javascript.

[x]

I disagree with 2-4, slightly.

2. It also existed before lambda--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

3. Alonzo Church & Stephen Cole Kleene only lay the foundations for programming. What about McCarthy who invented Lisp? Or Haskell Curry, who is behind the lambda and functional programming?! OR ALAN TURING?!!!! Or even Ada Lovelace who was rocking it back in the early 1800s.

4. Its a compiler. "A compiler is a computer program (or set of programs) that transforms source code written in a programming language (the source language) into another computer language" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiler
Metaprogramming is slightly different. Its anything that produces, or modifies source code, at /run time/. Compilation happens before run time. A good example would be genetic programming or C macros: #define blah int blah = 10;

Well if it existed before Lambda then that wikipedia article I read was wrong.
But doesn't it transform the code into javascript, and then execute that? it's acting like the C macros, in that it translates all the code, and then compiles and runs javascript.

A macro would be if it changed its own source code, before it got converted to javascript. Compilation involves parsing and conversion to another language.

[Connors]

The HTML5 Docs ought to be alphabetized.

[GMG Kurt]

A macro would be if it changed its own source code, before it got converted to javascript. Compilation involves parsing and conversion to another language.

ah I see.
I think the doc are fine un-alphabetized, since you should read all of them anyways