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I got an idea
« on: August 29, 2013, 05:44:23 PM »
HTML5 Multiplayer GameMaker

Javascript is pretty fast, dynamic and can be loaded/changed anytime. I could take what I've learned when I made the GameMaker, and what I learned with the Chatbox game and combine them.

An HTML5 GM 2.0 that allows you to make games, but! The game consists of two parts, server code and client code. The code would be simplified like the current GameMaker is, and the server and client would start with template code for an easier time.

When you edit server code, you have the option of restarting the server, turning it off or turning it on. The server will run via Node.js on my server machine the chatbox game is running on.

When you edit client code, you'll have the option of running the client code like a normal game or sharing a link of the game to friends.

Everything is simplified, you don't have to worry about hosting, port forwarding, gritty networking low level code; all you have to do is write the code.

Downside:
If you write crappy code, it can slow down the whole server so all hosted online games are slowed. You can also potentially cripple my internet by writing code that sends tons of data.


Details on how it'd work:
Instead of relying on PHP and SQL, the new GameMaker will connect to a Node.js server that handles data saving and processing. This makes a huge speed increase in loading and saving.

When running a server, it'll take your server code, dynamically load it as a javascript code server object, and put it in the server stack where it receives normal logic and events. Alternatively, if I can figure out how to spawn and manage multiple Node.js processes, I could keep games separated so they have less of an effect on each other.

When running a client, it's a very simple HTML page that sends the game ID to the server, the server will then send all the client code to the HTML page where it'll dynamically load that code into the HTML page and start the game's client.

You'll have the option of downloading both the server and client code of your game so you can edit them outside of the GameMaker and host a server on your own machine.

Benefits:
This will allow even novice programmers to learn the essentials of online game programming and allow them to make online multiplayer games easily.

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Re: I got an idea
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2013, 05:45:37 PM »
On a completely flip side, if all that work seems too much, I can write a template for easy multiplayer game making people can edit with their favorite code editor and run using terminal commands.

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 02:03:48 PM »
Wow man, either of these options sounds interesting to me. I don't know how many of these guys know Javascript though (I don't) and I'd like to see where it goes if you make an editor but that sounds like a lot of work.

Side note: You should consider advertising the game maker someplace such as the TIGsource forum by posting it as a project you're working on. There's bound to be some interest.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 03:57:28 PM »
Yeah, what Connors said.  It sounds great, but it'll be a LOT of work, both for you and for your users.  And frankly, you have to ask yourself, "who will use it"?  We're not very productive here, and it's not because we lack good game-making technology.  HTML5 GM is already excellent, we just don't utilize it.  Adding new features won't motivate us.

Start advertising HTML5 GM, and continue refining the current set of features.  Get some new people in here, help them to take advantage of what you've already made, and if they want to make multiplayer games, then develop 2.0 to meet the need.

You've already built it, you just have to tell them to come.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 06:01:27 PM »
Heck if Gan isn't gonna try and spread the word I'll do it in his place. What should I say about it?
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2013, 06:46:44 PM »
I'll put the idea on hold, instead I like the idea of maintaining what we got.

If any of you are interested, I'll make a simple Javascript template to allow you to make an online multiplayer web based game. I can also make a plain javascript template for you to make an offline web based game.

Otherwise:
HTML5 GM - Probably need to clean/revamp the code a bit, fix a few bugs still in there
Chatbox Game - Been working on the next update, need to finish and put it online
SpaceCraft - Submitting the game idea to the Game Development Club next week and if they vote my idea in, I'll be the leader of the web based space craft building multiplayer game.

Heck if Gan isn't gonna try and spread the word I'll do it in his place. What should I say about it?
I'm not really into advertising, not really good at it. I made a rune page calculator that calculated the best rune page for a champ in LoL, posted it on Reddit and I think one person liked it.

Side note: Remember my shooting platformer game with multiple levels you guys made? I completely forgot it existed. What do you think I should do about it?

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2013, 07:22:56 PM »
I don't know, maybe you should add a damage meter and make it work like Smash Bros where you have to knock your opponent off the edge.

I was gonna ask if you wanted to help finish up that game we started with the physics box... There was something good there. It needed a basic menu/level select screen and a good way to make levels. Remember it?
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2013, 08:36:37 PM »
Ah yeah I remember that. What'd we make it in? And you got the codez?

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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 12:40:03 AM »
It should still be saved on the HTML5GM I'll take a look at it later, I'm gonna be out of town this weekend so I might not have too much time.
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