Revamped Graphics -Need some help-

[Gan]

Silver remade most of the tiles and I made a program that detected the old tiles and replaced them with new tiles.

Except there are a few tiles that aren't recreated.

I've attached examples of old and new maps to this post.

As you can see in the last 2 maps, the below ground tiles and certain stone tiles are not created. So the program finds the next best replacement. I'm not an artist. The best I can do is take out the black lines, I can't really change an old tile to look like a fancy new tile.

I've attached a file. This file contains a folder of tiles. Tiles with an "r" in front means tiles to be replaced. The tile without the "r" are new tiles. Not every tile is contained in that folder. The rest of the old tiles are in the old maps within the "Maps to be replaced" folder.
My tile replacement program can only do so much, if you look into the folder, it shows a lot of tiles missing or messed up on certain maps. Those tiles need to be created from the old tiles.

That's where I need your help. If any of you have any experience with graphics and want to help, I can post all the old tiles that need to be recreated.

[Connors]

Wait, this is just an update of the same program? From Game Maker? You know it won't run on newer Macs!
And yes the underground tiles need lots of work.

[GMG Kurt]

whoa how'd u make a program to do that? I though the tiles were all merged together into an image?

[Gan]

whoa how'd u make a program to do that? I though the tiles were all merged together into an image?

They were, I made a program that took the image, analyzed each square, ran a similarity algorithm and detect which tiles are which. Then it continued to replace tiles.

This is an iOS port of the game.
Anyone willing to help with the tile revamp?

[Gan]

Alright, I made a file of all the tiles that need revamped and a PSD containing all of the currently revamped tiles.

The old tiles are 45x45, the new tiles are 44x44 pixels.

[Zoo]

I like the old tiles. They have the "This is made by silverwind" feel to them. If you're using old character sprites, why switch tiles. Personally, I think the new ones look worse.

[Gan]

Ok. I can keep the old tiles.

The new tiles can be for... oh. Probably shouldn't reveal new projects.

[Gan]

Actually I have 3 possible courses:
(1) Leave the tiles as is. Lines and everything.
(2) Take out the lines. Try to make the tiles look natural without lines.
(3) Use all the new tiles, for missing tiles use the old tiles without lines.

Which do you vote for?

[Connors]

I like the old tiles. They have the "This is made by silverwind" feel to them. If you're using old character sprites, why switch tiles. Personally, I think the new ones look worse.

The new ones are more detailed. I think they're fine. And they ARE made by Silverwind.
I could update the rest of the original graphics without changing a lot, by just adding some texture, I attached a couple examples. And maybe edit those trees to look better in groups.
If you don't want to do it that way I like option #2 the best. I can see why you would like to keep the original graphics.
Either way we could at least update the menus a bit if I remember right the original ones were pretty plain. But I can't play it anymore so I can't look. 
And Silverwind made mountain tiles with edges transitioning to grass which would be good for the dwarven entrance.

[Connors]

You know I remember when they first made an updated Cave Story, the biggest change was doubling the resolution on most or all graphics and adding detail while keeping as close as possible to the original shape. I could just add some details or textures to the old tiles without really changing outlines or colors. Same as with the two walls there.

[Gan]

Wow, that looks really nice! If it isn't a burden, upgrading the rest of the gfx would be fantastic. The tiles that need updated are mostly repetitive tiles. For the dungeons. Just shaded different colors.
One note though, the new tiles are 44x44 pixels. Some there might have to be some modifications besides just chopping out lines.

I've attached shots of the GUI.

[Connors]

That's cool, this version looks great! And we get a bit of a preview. iOS means you can play it on your home computer right? Not just mobile?

Anyways... You made them all exactly one pixel smaller?? I suppose that won't be a problem for most of them. But do you have re-sized versions of all the old sprites at 44x44? My plan was to take each one and do what I just did, add shading and/or texture.

I'd love to hear Silver's opinion on changing all his graphics.

[Gan]

That's cool, this version looks great! And we get a bit of a preview. iOS means you can play it on your home computer right? Not just mobile?

Nah, iOS is only iPhone/iPad. And maybe iTV in the future.

Anyways... You made them all exactly one pixel smaller?? I suppose that won't be a problem for most of them. But do you have re-sized versions of all the old sprites at 44x44? My plan was to take each one and do what I just did, add shading and/or texture.

I didn't make them 44x44. Silverwind made the new tiles 44x44. Plus he made them without lines. So it's gonna require a tiny modification if we update the old tiles.

[Gan]

Sure, go ahead. I don't think Silver would be offended.

[GMG Kurt]

Mayby the game options could have an option, old style or new style graphics