Now is the time to learn Obj-C!

[WarHampster]

There is no way Apple would allow a development tool, no matter what it's programmed in.

[Gnome]

Here's the Way I see it, C, and its variants, are pretty much the standard for Programming.

Obj-C, is a variant of that, which means learning it would be a huge step in Learning C.
Obj-C also supports many things, such as 3D graphics, etc...

Finally, apple definately is going away anytime soon. So if you plan to be an indie game maker, you'd have apple's full support.

[Telstar5]

Apps that encourage excessive consumption of alcohol or illegal substances, or encourage minors to consume alcohol or smoke cigarettes, will be rejected.

That does it. Installing Ubuntu.

Look at 2.15. MindVision and Stuffit are screwed.

P.S. No more complaining about these rules and the Mac App Store. There's nothing we can do about it and complaining gets in the way of making progress.

Yes sir, polish your shoes sir?

[Gan]

There is no way Apple would allow a development tool, no matter what it's programmed in.

Why wouldn't they? It doesn't break any of the regulations.


-Gan

[WarHampster]

You could potentially make a program with it that would.

[Telstar5]

Apps that use deprecated or optionally installed technologies (e.g., Java, Rosetta) will be rejected. - REALbasic uses Carbon at present, cocoa still in beta stage, games made with SC require user to learn SC's syntax.

Apps must be packaged and submitted using Apple’s packaging technologies included in Xcode; no third party installers allowed - SC distributed in a compressed archive.

Apps that use non-public APIs will be rejected - REALbasic.

Apps that present a license screen at launch will be rejected - LOL. That's Quicktime and iTunes rejected, then.

[Gan]

You could potentially make a program with it that would.

I doubt that'd be much of an issue. A user making a program in Sc that destroys their own computer.... Doesn't sound plausible.
I think it'd have a good chance of getting through.


-Gan

[Telstar5]

[size=10]Apps that use non-public APIs will be rejected.[/size]

RB is proprietary; therefore SC is proprietary and anything built with SC is proprietary, so it will have some issues getting through.

[GMG Mike]

I doubt that'd be much of an issue. A user making a program in Sc that destroys their own computer.... Doesn't sound plausible.
I think it'd have a good chance of getting through.

The whole point is that it shouldn't have to get through anything. We have a free and open platform with the Mac OS - why the hell would anyone consent to it being closed down like iOS?

[Gnome]

The whole point is that it shouldn't have to get through anything. We have a free and open platform with the Mac OS - why the hell would anyone consent to it being closed down like iOS?

Mike, its not closed down. We can still download whatever we want.

The Mac App store is basically the equivalent of a flash games website.


On a side note:
I'd never thought I'd say this, but the Xcode interface is fun!

[GMG Mike]

Mike, its not closed down. We can still download whatever we want.

The Mac App store is basically the equivalent of a flash games website.

I don't know. I just don't think it's a good sign going forward.

[Gan]

Everything's still the same as it use to be.
Only thing added is an easy and fast way to find great and reliable applications.
I would love to see Sc as one of them. The only roadblock would be converting Sc to Obj-C so it could get on the app store.


-Gan

[Telstar5]

We can still download whatever we want.

For now. That can change whenever Apple feels like making more money.

[Gan]

Stop being so paranoid. The Queen's not going to be assassinated tomorrow, Bill Gates won't become poor, and Apple won't make a decision to lock down the Mac platform and in turn infuriating and destroying it's user base.

In the Keynote even Steve Jobs said that applications could be received the regular way despite the app store.

On a side note, for anyone going through the tutorials. Build often. Building shows possible bugs and updates the Interface Builder about outlets.


-Gan
P.S. Sorry for everyone following the scratch game tutorials. Here are the NSView methods:

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[GMG Mike]

I would love to see Sc as one of them. The only roadblock would be converting Sc to Obj-C so it could get on the app store.

I'm not converting it. If Apple won't take REALbasic programs in the store, then they can rot.