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Title: i have upgraded!!
Post by: EqwanoX on July 30, 2014, 09:32:31 AM
its always a major step for me when i get a new computer, and in tradition i post about it on GM., i was using a 2ghz dual core iMac with 10.5, I'm now on 10.9 2.5ghz quad core i5 for 700$ off craigslist. part of the reason for upgrading was for 10.9, cause nothing is compatible with 10.5 anymore and then i  find out that 10.9 is FREE!? I'm still living in the 90s where an os update would be like 100-200$ anyway, time to test all my SC games and see how much faster and smoother they run
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Gan on July 30, 2014, 01:15:37 PM
Holy crap. Welcome to the future Eq!
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Circuit on July 30, 2014, 02:34:51 PM
That's a great deal, and a necessary upgrade.  You wouldn't want to run 10.9 on the old iMac... it might work, but it would be pretty slow.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Connors on July 30, 2014, 05:01:21 PM
That's a great deal, and a necessary upgrade.  You wouldn't want to run 10.9 on the old iMac... it might work, but it would be pretty slow.
I still have my 2 GHz MacBook and 10.9 runs just fine. In fact, I think I recall Gan saying it was supposed to be MORE efficient than the previous OSX.

My current plan: Once I feel I've got enough in savings, I'm gonna do some research and rebuild my desktop computer so I'll have a decent gaming PC, should be pretty cheap if I do it right. I'll probably keep the MacBook for school and for the utility of having a laptop.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Zoo on July 30, 2014, 06:23:56 PM
Great plan, Connors.
I have a laptop and a gaming PC, too. I don't have a Mac, currently, though.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Circuit on July 31, 2014, 11:06:34 AM
I still have my 2 GHz MacBook and 10.9 runs just fine. In fact, I think I recall Gan saying it was supposed to be MORE efficient than the previous OSX.
I have 10.9 on my 2.26 GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook (late 2009), and it hangs for about 1 second every time I open a program.  Based on that, I assumed that older/slower Macs would be a lot worse with 10.9... I guess I overestimated.

I also have an Acer C720 Chromebook.  It's pretty great... once you replace ChromeOS with Linux, it becomes a "real computer".  It's what I use most of the time now, even though the MacBook is still superior to it in various ways.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Gan on July 31, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
I have a Dell desktop I installed Mac on. Cause Mac is superior to Windows.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: EqwanoX on July 31, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
well the future is boring, theres a six year gap between .5 and .9 and i notice absolutely nothing different... 10.10 is coming out in a couple months but I'm exhausted from all this upgrading, I'm good for another 5 to 8 years.

oh, i noticed none of my games work that were made with sc1.5, so 10.9 sucks.

Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Connors on July 31, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
well the future is boring, theres a six year gap between .5 and .9 and i notice absolutely nothing different... 10.10 is coming out in a couple months but I'm exhausted from all this upgrading, I'm good for another 5 to 8 years.

oh, i noticed none of my games work that were made with sc1.5, so 10.9 sucks.
In the time since I posted my recent post I noticed that a select few old games have worked the first time I opened them in 10.9 and then afterwards they were broken. So, basically, I have to make a new copy of the app each time I run it. Or maybe use a Time Machine backup. I can't find anything on the Internet to explain this. My OS is corrupting programs after running them! :U
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Zoo on July 31, 2014, 07:07:37 PM
I'm pretty sure it's just a computer gremlin corrupting the files. A simple solution would be to spray some sort of repellent into any intake fans on your Mac. If there are no intake fans, then you could try making a program to constantly create empty text files in a certain directory in hopes of keeping the computer gremlin busy. In a worst case scenario, however, you'd want to format your hard drive and light your computer on fire and put it out with holy water, chanting "Begone demons of the virtual realm, I banish thee!"

You can find holy water at any local drugstore, but if you don't have a local supplier, Walmart has an off-brand "Good" Water, which is almost the same thing.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Circuit on August 01, 2014, 04:18:49 PM
oh, i noticed none of my games work that were made with sc1.5, so 10.9 sucks.
IIRC, SC 1.5 compiled PPC code, and OS X stopped supporting PPC after 10.6.  If you still have the source files, you can recompile your games as Intel code in SC 2.0b3.

Also, 10.9 requires applications to be signed by Apple.  To run non-signed programs, I think you need to go to System Preferences -> Security & Privacy and change the setting "Allow apps downloaded from:" to "Anywhere".

My OS is corrupting programs after running them! :U
That's... really weird.  I have a feeling that the programs themselves are OK, but the OS has some kind of configuration file for them that is messed up (though I don't know why that would happen).  You can get the MD5 checksum of a program before you run it, then get the checksum again afterward, and compare them to see if the program has changed.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Al Staffieri on August 14, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
I'm still on 10.68. I'm afraid to upgrade in case some of the stuff I use won't run anymore.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Gan on August 15, 2014, 08:10:14 AM
It's time to let go of the past Al. She's gone and dwelling in your memories will just leave you a bitter old man. The future is bright, now is when you must look forward. There's so many more experiences and I'm sure you'll find just what you need to fill your void. That hole that you're so desperately trying to keep patched. There's only so much duct tape you can add before it comes crashing down and in a single moment your whole world is gone.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Connors on August 15, 2014, 03:13:40 PM
Says the guy who can't remember anything about projects he worked on less than a year ago.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Zoo on August 15, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
It's even worse for me, I can't remember projects I worked on less than ten minutes ago.

What the heck is a forum?!
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Circuit on August 16, 2014, 01:00:22 AM
I'm still on 10.68. I'm afraid to upgrade in case some of the stuff I use won't run anymore.
I hear you.  I knew that if I replaced Snow Leopard with Mavericks that I wouldn't be able to play carbonized GM games, old PPC SC games, etc..  But if you have enough extra space on your HD, you can partition it and have Snow Leopard and Mavericks on the same disk.  That's what I recently did.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Silverwind on August 16, 2014, 10:57:31 AM
Alas indeed! How sad it is to live in the realisation of one's younger day fears: The old roads have gone forever, and the new roads present unfamiliar challenges. The journey to that place of realised imagination so often visited in the days of GM seems terribly greater now, and I feel old at the thought of attempting it. Alas! Alas!

Still, having been dreaming and weaving adventures for years, one conviction encourages me: the call of adventure usually comes to unsuspecting young'uns, and to those it calls exploration is not a burden but a large part of the reward.

Ramble ramble. Muse muse.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Zoo on August 16, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
Technology's rapid change is terrifying, yet, with the internet's expansive nostalgic community, there's always ways of reclaiming the past, at least to a certain extent.

http://www.xkcd.com/1305/
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Connors on August 16, 2014, 06:34:27 PM
improbableisland.com
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: EqwanoX on August 17, 2014, 08:23:45 AM
I'm still on 10.68. I'm afraid to upgrade in case some of the stuff I use won't run anymore.
thats the exact reason i hate upgrading, if it aint broke why fix it.

i used to be able to listen to the iTunes radio no problem, now i have to make an apple id with some complex password, and then i have to put in my credit card info! i don't want to buy anything!! i just want to listen to the radio! why do  i need an account for that?!
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Connors on August 17, 2014, 11:53:25 AM
I miss TNTBasic.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Gan on August 17, 2014, 12:35:36 PM
TNTBasic was fun for the short time I used it.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: EqwanoX on August 28, 2014, 12:38:41 PM
oh another thing, my photoshop doesn't work either, i guess ill buy a new one. does anyone have any recommendations? i don't have the patience to research what version or type to get right now
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Zoo on August 28, 2014, 01:09:00 PM
I use Photoshop Elements 10. Dunno if that works on new Mac or not.

The CC Photoshop may be worth it if you use it professionally/all the time, but Elements (to my knowledge) has many of the same features. The most major difference between PS: Elements and Photoshop Professional is the painting tools, which are far better in Pro.

I'm sure there's non-adobe alternatives to Photoshop if you look around, but I haven't really bothered, since I have a Mac/PC version of Elements on disk that, to my knowledge, has infinite installs.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Connors on August 29, 2014, 10:12:08 PM
Well in case your copy of Elements won't work (which is unlikely):

GIMP is a good, free Photoshop alternative, and you can do layers, brushes, text, effects, magic wand, rotate/scale/skew, burn/dodge etc. You'll have to study up on the way it handles layers and copy/paste, but other than that it's not so different from PS.

Paint Tool SAI is only $10 and is built specifically for drawing/painting. It didn't take me long to learn how to use it and it's got plenty of useful features. (I like the selection painter and the ability to rotate the canvas). It also works very comfortably with a drawing tablet.

EDIT: And yes there is a good chance the upgraded Photoshop will have a lot of extra features you will not need, in fact it's probably got so many you wouldn't even have time to learn most of them.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Zoo on August 30, 2014, 12:06:51 AM
Photoshop Elements has okay painting tools, true. But I'd give a specialized program a try if you're really into digital art. Gimp's good, I haven't used it a lot.
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: EqwanoX on August 30, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
also, anyone get the "disk not ejected properly" glitch? it renders my flash drives useless, and i don't think you can fix it.

but they still mount on my 10.5 iMac
Title: Re: i have upgraded!!
Post by: Connors on August 30, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
I don't know this glitch, perhaps you could explain in more detail? ¿ ?