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Game Maker's Garage => Suggestions => Topic started by: GMG Mike on June 28, 2009, 12:18:56 AM
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D_a_m_n (without underscores) should not be censored. I think we can all deal with that word.
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Can I suggest 'my as s' being uncensored? If I type my ass, I get 'I disagree'.
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my ass
I don't disagree.....
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Agreed.
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This place is visited by people of all ages and all ethnicities. Curse words should in fact all be blocked.
What defines a curse word?
A curse word is a word taken out of context to mean something of a vulgar term used to express anger, disappointment, ect.
Curse words express negativity and the high use of them can actually bring depression and anger.
Besides that, I find cursing relative to the whining my nephew generates when he doesn't get that cookie he wanted. It's the language of the immature, I believe you guys can be a bit more respectful when talking.
-Gandolf
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Curse words only have the stigma attached to them because we attach such stigmas.
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Not all swears are bad. Yeah, racist swear words are horrible, and I have no objection to them being censored - but things like 'damn' and 'ass' are part of American-English language. In Ireland, they swear all the time. I don't think I met a single person in Northern Ireland that didn't swear at least twice in ten minutes. Maybe fuck is a bit too extreme, and I don't mind that being censored within reason.
Fact is that everyone past the age of 12 starts developing language skills, including slang. I'm willing to bet that people from 10 to 28 will visit the forum, and only a small minority will actually be offended by swearing. After people get over the whole 'swearing is naughty' thing that parents teach us, they begin to swear at their parents, parents swear back - and, heaven forbid! Our parents have always used swear words! Those liars!
Anyway, I'm going off the point. ALL swears being censored doesn't outrage me, I just don't see why they should ALL be blanked out or changed. Either way, I'm happy with what's here, with the exception of the 'ass' wordfilter...
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Just because people do it doesn't justify the reason that we should too. All cursing is wrong hence the name. A curse is an expression of misfortune on/towards something. It generates a bad influence and shouldn't be allowed at all.
-Gandolf
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Just because people do it doesn't justify the reason that we should too. All cursing is wrong hence the name. A curse is an expression of misfortune on/towards something. It generates a bad influence and shouldn't be allowed at all.
-Gandolf
So is "s_hit" a curse?
"S_hit you to hell!"
"God s_hit it."
By your logic, d_amn should be censored and s_hit and other words should be permitted, since s_hit is a descriptive word and not a curse.
"The food tastes s_hitty."
"These old PCs are s_hit and I'm going to throw them away."
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Can we stop using the word "curse" please? Lets do it the southern way, and use the word "cuss".
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Can we stop using the word "curse" please? Lets do it the southern way, and use the word "cuss".
"D_amn you" is a curse.
"The room is s_hitty" or "You are an a_sshole" is a cuss.
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Can we quit cussing and cursing? It's disrespectful and I can't stand it. If nothing else I have said means anything to you guys, could you at least respect my wishes?
The Gmg and Sc forums are just about the only forums I visit anymore. The Online Gaming Core(OGC) is a programmer forum and was ran over by perverts and sex. XtremeWorld's great old timing members were replaced by immature people who use foul language and can't keep a single project running before giving up.
The Gmg and Sc are the only forums I have left, I won't let them go.
-Gandolf
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If it offends you, I won't swear in my posts in response directly to you. I can live with that very easily.
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Using curse words in general offends me. It shows what a low grade the speaker is. Curse words were created for expressing great distaste in a matter. Not to be shrewn about in every sentance, I even know those who use them every other word. Learning to use less and less cursing/cussing will make you look more professional and even widen your vocabulary.
If you are going to use a curse word, save them for when you really will need it because they are some of the strongest words in the English language.
You guys will probably never hear one from me because I will most likely never have a need for them.
-Gandolf
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Using curse words in general offends me. It shows what a low grade the speaker is. Curse words were created for expressing great distaste in a matter. Not to be shrewn about in every sentance, I even know those who use them every other word. Learning to use less and less cursing/cussing will make you look more professional and even widen your vocabulary.
If you are going to use a curse word, save them for when you really will need it because they are some of the strongest words in the English language.
You guys will probably never hear one from me because I will most likely never have a need for them.
-Gandolf
Again, particular words are only "low grade" because a group of people decided they should be. Otherwise, it's meaningless. For example, on UK TV, certain expletives are used freely which would be censored in the States and vice-versa.
Filters should be available on the client side, not the server side, however that is not possible with any known version of YaBB or in fact any other forum software. You would be able to choose to censor any words you don't wish to see while the rest of us can read the posts undisturbed.
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on UK TV, certain expletives are used freely which would be censored in the States
Oooh yeah. From about 8 PM onwards on the BBC, it's nothing but ****, ****, ****, ******, ****, ************ and **** all night long.
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What gives Gandolf the right to decide what words are censored for the entire site? -_-
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I could say the same thing just turned around. ;)
You see, it isn't our right to decide what words are/aren't censored for the forum. It's Ghost's. He's the owner and that is why we are trying to win him over to our side by posting in the suggestions sub section of the forum.
-Gandolf
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Damn it, you caught me :(
EDIT: Hey, it looks like it's uncensored!
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Yay, now lets go for f.uck!
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:( This is severely disappointing.
-Gandolf
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This is what I think...
Damn should be uncensored.
Crap should be uncensored.
Ass should be uncensored.
Shit should be uncensored.
Vagina be uncensored.
Penis be uncensored.
Ass hat should be uncensored.
Rape should be uncensored.
Fuck should be censored.
Bitch should be censored.
Nigger should be censored.
Bob should be censored.
Yup that's it.
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Rape should be uncensored.
Oh, but of course, because rape is hilarious!
One of my friends was raped in her own home in April. Rape isn't funny, and I mean that.
If anyone's wondering, she survived and told the police. She's usually her old self these days, but gets patches of unhappiness every few weeks or so. It's awful.
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Hey guys, tricky question.
It doesn't please anyone, they mean bad things most of the time and it has never done anything good. Why should we have it uncensored?
-Gandolf
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Oh, but of course, because rape is hilarious!
One of my friends was raped in her own home in April. Rape isn't funny, and I mean that.
If anyone's wondering, she survived and told the police. She's usually her old self these days, but gets patches of unhappiness every few weeks or so. It's awful.
No one (at least i don't) means rape like that or likes to think about that. But raped as ing you just got raped, pwned, owned, killed.
Hey guys, tricky question.
It doesn't please anyone, they mean bad things most of the time and it has never done anything good. Why should we have it uncensored?
-Gandolf
Why can't I say ass. Or oh shit. Or fuck I just accidently blah blah blah. As long as I am not using it to hurt someone?
Oh fuck I just deleted my playlist on itunes! <--- okay
Go home and fuck yourself. <--- bad
You little piece of shit. <--- bad
Shit! I just (whatever). <--- okay
No words should be censored except racial slurs those have no reason to be said at all (except if you are saying not to say them). People should just get warned not to curse to hurt people in the rules and if they do X times they get banned.
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No one (at least i don't) means rape like that or likes to think about that. But raped as ing you just got raped, pwned, owned, killed.
I think that's really insensitive. :-/
I have no problem with pwned or owned or killed, but rape just isn't funny no matter what context.
Hey guys, tricky question.
It doesn't please anyone, they mean bad things most of the time and it has never done anything good. Why should we have it uncensored?
-Gandolf
Most people use swears in everyday language. Swearing is like poetry; if pulled off correctly, it's beautiful. Overdoing it is when it gets nasty. I don't think the word 'damn' is such a bad word, it used to be censored in books way back in the seventies from what I can recall. 'Darn' would be an appropriate substitute, I've never seen it hurt anybody.
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Banned from books!!! But "cusses" help develop characters and how the reader feels about them!
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Why can't I say a**. Or oh nuts. Or f**k I just accidently blah blah blah. As long as I am not using it to hurt someone?
Oh f**k I just deleted my playlist on itunes! <--- okay
Go home and f**k yourself. <--- bad
You little piece of nuts. <--- bad
nuts! I just (whatever). <--- okay
No words should be censored except racial slurs those have no reason to be said at all (except if you are saying not to say them). People should just get warned not to curse to hurt people in the rules and if they do X times they get banned.
You think you should not curse if it hurts people. Unfortunately people who are offended by cursing are hurt by it.
Most people use swears in everyday language. Swearing is like poetry; if pulled off correctly, it's beautiful. Overdoing it is when it gets nasty. I don't think the word 'd***' is such a bad word, it used to be censored in books way back in the seventies from what I can recall. 'Darn' would be an appropriate substitute, I've never seen it hurt anybody.
You're trying to justify the means by saying that many people do it. Band wagon approach. Than you say it's poetry without an explanation except "pulled off correctly". You have never seen it hurt somebody... you can probably do an educated guess that many people have been hurt before by it.
Banned from books!!! But "cusses" help develop characters and how the reader feels about them!
Cusses build characters in books.... Out of context words usually meaning to put down people and generally frowned down upon by society bring character to books. Interesting.
Can't you guys come up with anything at least a little bit convincing? :-/
-Gandolf
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Unfortunately people who are offended by cursing are hurt by it.
Okay crap...
Do you feel offended? Hurt?
You think you should not curse if it hurts people.
I agree with you!
Cusses build characters in books.... Out of context words usually meaning to put down people and generally frowned down upon by society bring character to books. Interesting.
If character's use bad language it tells you about them. that's all I meant. I was just surprised damn was banned from books in the 70s is all.
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As Patrick would say, they are "sentence enhancers". There are some things best explained by using a cuss word, especially to make things funny.
Like instead of saying he went crazy, say he went apesh.it.
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It's only funny because the listener doesn't expect it. Though that than depends on the listener. You could also think of some other cunningly hillarious word that could produce the same effect without the chance of offending someone.
-Gandolf
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No one is going to be offended by a sentence that isn't aimed at them or effect them in anyway.
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Too late. *Sad smile* Every time I read a post where someone curses/cussed freely, it pains me. As if a wave of depression washes across me. If they were having an extremely tragic day and they just broke up with a girl who they were suppose to be married to, I could understand. Though when people curse/cuss without really any reason... It makes me wonder what's this generation coming to these days?
-Gandolf
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It has a lot to do with location too. What might be highly offensive and politically incorrect in the states would be hilarious in Britain. (I won't mention the word, it's too risky!) Allow me to give my tuppence from a British point of view.
I don't know about the states, but every generation from 1950 and onward has swore for some reason. It could be the breakdown of morals, corruption of family values, heroin addicts and other you-heard-this-from-Fox-news-first excuses. I don't think there's anyone to blame except media outlets. You couldn't say 'bum' on television in 1974, and 'bottom' was also a big deal. Can you imagine the absolute outrage when a member of the Sex Pistols sat down for a television interview and told the presenter "You fucking rotter"? Nowadays, there's swearing in music on the radio, on TV, on the internet, often in newspapers - it goes on and on and on, all because of changes in culture, and nobody gives a toss. Eventually, we might find using the english language strange. We might all be using SMS lingo in ten years time.
It's difficult to remember where you are on the internet. Sometimes you're the only British guy in an American forum, sometimes it's the other way around. We have different customs, swearing - amongst other things - is one of them, and for whatever reason, American peoples find these customs very curious indeed.
Still, I can respect the fact some people don't like swearing, and I can live with censors - it's just 'd**n' isn't really that much of a huge swear word thesedays, like in the same way 'bum' was naughty back in the seventies, but doesn't even register now. At least, not on my radar.
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Too late. *Sad smile* Every time I read a post where someone curses/cussed freely, it pains me. As if a wave of depression washes across me. If they were having an extremely tragic day and they just broke up with a girl who they were suppose to be married to, I could understand. Though when people curse/cuss without really any reason... It makes me wonder what's this generation coming to these days?
You are really over-reacting to cuss words.
If I said something denouncing Jesus Christ, then that should upset you. I wouldn't say such things, because I have no reason to denounce Jesus, and because even if I did I know that phrase would be extremely hurtful and rightfully so.
The same goes for the N-word. Older black people are extremely offended by that word. (It pisses me off to see younger black people using that word and other forms of it). I would not use that word. It has specific connotations.
However, the word "damn" does not apply to any religion or ethnic group. The word "s**t" is merely a noun or adjective describing something of poor or undesirable quality.
"This PC is s**tty."
"Pick up all of that s**t in your room."
The F word has possible sexual connotations. Even the FCC (governing body for broadcast TV standards in USA) has permitted this word when used in a non-sexual manner (by U2 star Bono at a televised awards show, albeit accidentally), and numerous times in a 9/11 documentary aired by CBS.
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cuss
Ahh yes, sweet sweet victory.
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D*** means D***ation. Which is a word to curse misforune on something. "I d*** you to H***!!!!" is a prime example of cursing/cussing with it. When you say that word under your breath to yourself, you are cursing your existance. The word itself is actually used a frequently in religious texts refering to those who will be enduring eternal punishment.
-Gandolf
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Ahh yes, sweet sweet victory.
I'm from Texas, so I normally do use the word cuss.
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cuss
Southern America reminds me of this scene from Silence of the Lambs.
http://www.youtube.com/v/G4qblq0uahw&hl=en&fs=1
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D*** means D***ation. Which is a word to curse misforune on something. "I d*** you to H***!!!!" is a prime example of cursing/cussing with it. When you say that word under your breath to yourself, you are cursing your existance. The word itself is actually used a frequently in religious texts refering to those who will be enduring eternal punishment.
-Gandolf
So you are in fact saying that s**t is better than d**n, at least in a religious context?
Unfortunately, this forum is not operated within the confines of a religious context.
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That all depends on ghost's views to religion. He's the person that owns the forum.
Agreed, the subject of the forum is making Mac games and discussing them, but it could be on the same server as, say, one of Wordweaver's websites, and the TOS states that the word damn must be banned, lest we all go to hell and burn for eternity.
I wonder if the morbidly obese take longer to burn?
On an unrelated note.. good lord, Wordweaver. He was strange as buggery.
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That all depends on ghost's views to religion. He's the person that owns the forum.
Ghost does not appear to have imposed any kind of religious beliefs onto the GMG. That is how it should be.
Agreed, the subject of the forum is making Mac games and discussing them, but it could be on the same server as, say, one of Wordweaver's websites, and the TOS states that the word damn must be banned, lest we all go to hell and burn for eternity.
On an unrelated note.. good lord, Wordweaver. He was strange as buggery.
The TOS would only apply to people accessing the WordWeaver portion of the server.
Whatever happened to WordWeaver anyway? It looks like his Hotline server is gone. He did have one of the longest running servers. It looks like Hotline is down to about 50 servers or less on the biggest tracker.
He also ran Chatline for a few months, and Spy for a number of years (perhaps as recent as 2008 ). That would make him the longest known Spy user as well.
Telstar you asked if I would be working on any other Mac software - I may in fact create a Universal version of Spy. The current old versions are located at http://macintoshspy.com/
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Words to me are just sounds invented by humans to convey some meaning to other humans. We have tied offensive meanings to certain words, but cussing is not the end of the world. I think a lot of swear words have shifted away from their original "religious" meanings, and are used differently in the context of a modern society.
I don't think you should get upset if someone says "damn." You have your own personal beliefs, and when I used the word "damn," I'm not intentionally cursing anyone in particular-- I'm just using an expression (the equivalent of "darn").
Ghost
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This is a very touchy topic so my input is that I don't think members of the GMG should purposely go around trying to offend one another. As to whether certain words should be censored is an entirely different matter. I would hope that everyone would do their best not to offend anyone. but even if a word is censored if the word is only partially censored and someone can decipher what the person was trying to say the censor has failed. So pretty much nothing is censored.
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The TOS would only apply to people accessing the WordWeaver portion of the server.
Whatever happened to WordWeaver anyway? It looks like his Hotline server is gone. He did have one of the longest running servers. It looks like Hotline is down to about 50 servers or less on the biggest tracker.
He also ran Chatline for a few months, and Spy for a number of years (perhaps as recent as 2008 ). That would make him the longest known Spy user as well.
Telstar you asked if I would be working on any other Mac software - I may in fact create a Universal version of Spy. The current old versions are located at http://macintoshspy.com/
Wordweaver is still around in his strange, apocolyptic ridden hole. He's still running his Telnet BBS from what I can see.
http://www.endtimeprophecy.org/ArmageddonBBS/
I have one question; why do you always use Team Rocket on your pages? I mean, they're awesome and all, but I'm just intrigued. Perhaps a screenshot or a photo of you sitting next to your trophy Mac would be more appropriate?
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Wordweaver is still around in his strange, apocolyptic ridden hole. He's still running his Telnet BBS from what I can see.
http://www.endtimeprophecy.org/ArmageddonBBS/
I have one question; why do you always use Team Rocket on your pages? I mean, they're awesome and all, but I'm just intrigued. Perhaps a screenshot or a photo of you sitting next to your trophy Mac would be more appropriate?
The Team Rocket pictures (there used to be several others) were put up when I changed servers last year, so I could identify when the DNS had successfully switched over for each domain. I never took it down for Mac Spy though (and I guess also mikerichardson.name)
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So you are in fact saying that s**t is better than d**n, at least in a religious context?
In religious context, all cursing is a sin. Sin is all equal, and you can't go to heaven with sin.
Unfortunately, this forum is not operated within the confines of a religious context.
Yeah, instead it's operated under the confinement of Ghost. He controls this forum to make it pleasing to all people of all ages to populate and grow.
I don't think you should get upset if someone says "d***." You have your own personal beliefs, and when I used the word "d***," I'm not intentionally cursing anyone in particular-- I'm just using an expression (the equivalent of "darn").
Though when you freely use curse words, you teach others to follow in your foot steps. If you haven't noticed, inappropriate language is often blocked for good reason. A prime example: The rating box on movies. Cursing/cussing can move a rating up from pg to pg-13 and even pg-13 to R, children are generally recommended to watch anywhere from g to pg. Pg-13 and up are not to be viewed to children. I started viewing game making forums at age 8, I could of been given some extremely bad habits though owners of forums were extremely respectful towards all ages and ethnicities to have the mind to block immature content.
This forum should generally stay at G, because I really shouldn't think that parental guidance is needed.
-Gandolf
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Okay Gandolf wins with that...
Though when you freely use curse words, you teach others to follow in your foot steps. If you haven't noticed, inappropriate language is often blocked for good reason. A prime example: The rating box on movies. Cursing/cussing can move a rating up from pg to pg-13 and even pg-13 to R, children are generally recommended to watch anywhere from g to pg. Pg-13 and up are not to be viewed to children. I started viewing game making forums at age 8, I could of been given some extremely bad habits though owners of forums were extremely respectful towards all ages and ethnicities to have the mind to block immature content.
This forum should generally stay at G, because I really shouldn't think that parental guidance is needed.
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I'm not gonna lie, that's a pretty good point.
Still, should one of us utter an expletive, I trust it not to be too serious. Maybe we've all been raised differently, I dunno about you guys, but I was raised by a single parent student. When you're that young - as a parent - looking after one kid and generally not being able to make ends meet, I can understand why my mother often used swears and expletives. Do I dislike her for teaching me those words? No, not at all; I'm guessing that we all love our parents (I hope) and that we trust them to teach us the correct way. Perhaps I have gone off track as my mother did at one point. Sure, I swear and I admit that I picked it up off mother. Indeed, out of the many reasons I picked up that first cigarette a year and a half ago was because my mother had been smoking for all of my childhood. I was shown many a 15 rated film - not ones with blatant sex, but ones which were actually beneficial to the mind and to the soul. I read poetry which dealt with touchy subjects (Howl - Allen Ginsberg) and my mother encouraged that. How have I turned out?
My mother thinks I am intellectual and borderline philosophical, but I disagree - I'm a loser, which is the most perfect purity. [/intellectual]
Indeed, Gandolf is correct; I have followed in my mother's footsteps exactly, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Sure, you can have laws which govern how old you have to be to watch a particular movie because one of the characters say 'fuck' at some point, laws which govern what kids should and shouldn't read, laws which tell us when we can try that fatal first cigarette - it's all the same, slowing down the inevitable which is the transition from childhood to adolescence, then from there to adulthood. Law really isn't important. It's a code to live by - sure, I can agree to that - but it's in no way beneficial. Law can state that we should not expose younguns to swearing, but the law also states that teachers can starve the pupils at school (as long as the right words are used, of course).
Oh, now there's a thought; did you know that anyone below the age of 13 has to get parental consent in order to register for any forum? The webmasters can get into serious trouble without it. Just popped to mind. :)
COPPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Online_Privacy_Protection_Act)
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In religious context, all cursing is a sin. Sin is all equal, and you can't go to heaven with sin.
I thought we agreed that s**t isn't a curse?
You can't s**t someone to hell, can you?
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Ha ha! I'm glad I'm thirteen! Close one...
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Ahh but Mike, if someone says Holy Sh*t, then its bad. ;)
I'm just going to write a bunch to see what the word changes into.
Shit
Fuck
Fucker
Fucking
Asshole
Ass
Shitty
Assfuck
Shitfucks
Bastard
Bitch
Skank
Whore
Slut
Cunt
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Ahh but Mike, if someone says Holy Sh*t, then its bad. ;)
I'm just going to write a bunch to see what the word changes into.
Shit
Fuck
Fucker
Fucking
Asshole
Ass
Shitty
Assfuck
Shitfucks
Bastard
Bitch
Skank
Whore
Slut
Cunt
Some of those aren't very good.
"s**t" turns into "nuts".
"Clean up all that nuts in your room."
"You are full of nuts."
Especially when "nuts" could be construed for "testicles".
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Sure, you can have laws which govern how old you have to be to watch a particular movie because one of the characters say 'f**k' at some point, laws which govern what kids should and shouldn't read, laws which tell us when we can try that fatal first cigarette - it's all the same, slowing down the inevitable which is the transition from childhood to adolescence, then from there to adulthood. Law really isn't important. It's a code to live by - sure, I can agree to that - but it's in no way beneficial. Law can state that we should not expose younguns to swearing, but the law also states that teachers can starve the pupils at school (as long as the right words are used, of course).
Teachers starve students at school? Physically or mentally?
When a child is born, his/her brain is developing until usually around the age of 20. They are like a hot piece of metal that has just come out of a fire. That metal will fully cool off around 20 years after birth. As that metal is hot, it is much easier to bend to your will. This is the learning curve. Parents and such will bend this metal, usually to benefit the child with proper education. Children aren't suppose to watch anything profane, because that piece of metal is still hot and can easily be bent. As they get older, it cools and they are allowed more freedom. That piece of metal holds them to what they have learned and things can't get to them as easily. Early on in life if they are introduced to drugs, profanity, and sex; that's how they will live. The metal will cool and it will be extremely hard to bend them back.
That's why we have to keep the up most regard towards people of the young.
Oh, now there's a thought; did you know that anyone below the age of 13 has to get parental consent in order to register for any forum? The webmasters can get into serious trouble without it. Just popped to mind.
COPPA
I sort of knew that in the back of my mind, though children are very explorative while learning. They want to know why, what, how, and is it edible. If given a computer, a parent would usually put up a firewall because a child will scour; absorbing all information on the net. If they see a forum and want to join, chances are that they won't ask a parent. They'll just join and look around. That's what I use to do, never gave a second thought to the button that asked me if I was 13 or older. It's not that I purposely lied, more of that I didn't really understand.
I thought we agreed that s**t isn't a curse?
You can't s**t someone to hell, can you?
According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity
It's still a curse/cuss word. Though it also explains in that article that the word isn't related to anything religious.
-Gandolf
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According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity
It's still a curse/cuss word. Though it also explains in that article that the word isn't related to anything religious.
It's not a "curse". Damn is a curse. You are damning somebody. You are cursing them.
You cannot "s**t" somebody. You can't "s**t" them to a place. It's not a curse. It's a cuss word, an expletive, but not a curse. And it's not a religious word at all.
I now reverse my previous argument. "d**n" should be banned and "shit" should be allowed!
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I shit you all to hell!
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drugs, profanity, and sex
[size=24]Not until you're 17.[/size]
Golden rule for all children, and it really works!
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Gandolf, how old are you? Just curious.
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I assume much older than any of us. He seems very wise.
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censoring damn is rediculous, and it shows how sheltered and fragile ghost is. i dont think there should be any sensorship, we should be able to express ourselves freely, theres hardly any swearing on these forums anyway, its like how there can be a few swears in a movie and it still be rated PG, but if swearing is out of control it gets a PG 13. we should all man-up a little, i mean whats next, we have to get our parents consent to register?
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Whats funny, ass and b*tch are now usable on TV. I hear them on almost every station. Yet, I watched The Matrix last night, and they censored out the word "finger" when Neo says "I'm going to give you the finger" and flicks off one of the sentinels.
Crazy.
And VH1 censors the word "muffin" in Lady Gaga's song Poker Face.
Crazy.
I remember when the radio used to censor out the word "hit" from the beginning of the song "I Hate Everything About You" by Three Days Grace.
Crazy.
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Matrix was on! I need to watch that I still haven't instead I watched star wars because I though nothing else was on and I was at my cousin's.
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Radio One changed "I'm lying in the wet patch in the middle of the bed, I'm feeling pretty damn hard done by, I spent ages giving head" in the new Lily Allen song to...
"I'm lying in the *bongo sound* in the middle of the bed, I'm feeling pretty damn hard done by *violin solo*"
...yet on the most popular comedy shows in Britain, they're saying "piss off" or "bollocks" or "fucking hell!" ect. Music is treated different to television, but more than likely, there are more kids watching comedy shows than listening to Lily Allen complain about how crap her boyfriend is at sex.
edit: hey! british swears don't appear to be censored.
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Play the censorship game! (http://www.gamemakersgarage.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=1246688186;start=0#0)
Fight the censors in the funny game.
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censoring damn is rediculous, and it shows how sheltered and fragile ghost is. i dont think there should be any sensorship, we should be able to express ourselves freely, theres hardly any swearing on these forums anyway, its like how there can be a few swears in a movie and it still be rated PG, but if swearing is out of control it gets a PG 13. we should all man-up a little, i mean whats next, we have to get our parents consent to register?
I think damn was a word censored by default with the YaBB installation.
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Man-up for swearing? Swearing is the language of the immature, the disrespectful, no good people who have no education, the language illiterates. Swearing adds a bad influence on people around them. It causes negativity, this forum should ban all swearing. It's extremely immature for people to ruin their mind/body. Swearing produces a negative stimulation on their mind. When someone expresses negativity harshly with a swear/cuss/curse word they are creating a negative influence. It increases their levels of anger and depression. If someone who never cursed or even never expressed their disappointment when something negative happened, they would remain focused and cheerful. Compared to someone who expresses their anger/disappointment greatly, they would be in that bad mood all day. Remember, bad moods spread; though good moods are also infectious. Keep a light and airy mood, don't use words of negativity(You know what they are, they are defined in the dictionary if you need help) because no one like being around a sour-puss.
-Gandolf
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THAT DAMN NEIGHBOR TOOK MY DAMN PERT FLAMINGOR!!!!
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Show a bit more class, that was unnecessary. Guys, we can all be a bit more respectful; even a bit more mature. There is no reason we can't at least respond seriously to another person instead of mocking them.
-Gandolf
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Gandolf you have your opinions and I wasn't mocking you I don't agree with you either though. What's wrong with using words to express emotions?
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This thread is boring. Eqwanox is about right, there's very little swearing round these parts anyway.
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Play my game! lol
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There are much more elequent ways to express yourself than resorting to simple barbaric crudities. Though for those who can only express themselves with profanity, go get a dictionary so you can figure out what I just said.
The fact that makes it wrong is that it's morally and socially unacceptable, if that is the only way you can express yourself; than consider what that says about you.
Enough said.
-Gandolf
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Meanwhile:
(http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/candy%20corn.jpg)
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The fact is when talking to people you don't use words like
resorting to simple barbaric crudities
. If you were speaking with a friend would you speak like this. Oh no my fragment of feces Windows broke down again? or My piece of crap Windows broke down again.
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Meanwhile:
(http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/candy%20corn.jpg)
Mm! Candy Corn? Care if I take a few?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8yuvMsvNqY
Lewis Black - Candy Corn
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I've never eaten candy corn. They sell it on ebay. I might buy a big bag of it when I get some money :P
What does it taste of?
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It's actually not that good. Well, that coming from one who doesn't like gummy bears, gummy worms, some chocolates, taffy, licorice, kit-kats, ect...
Though back on topic:
There are much more elequent ways to express yourself than resorting to simple barbaric crudities. Though for those who can only express themselves with profanity, go get a dictionary so you can figure out what I just said.
The fact that makes it wrong is that it's morally and socially unacceptable, if that is the only way you can express yourself; than consider what that says about you.
Enough said.
-Gandolf
-Gandolf
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It's actually not that good. Well, that coming from one who doesn't like gummy bears, gummy worms, some chocolates, taffy, licorice, kit-kats, ect...
-Gandolf
You don't like gummy bears or gummy worms *GASPS*
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Candy Corn does taste like crap.
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Man-up for swearing? Swearing is the language of the immature, the disrespectful, no good people who have no education, the language illiterates. Swearing adds a bad influence on people around them. It causes negativity, this forum should ban all swearing. It's extremely immature for people to ruin their mind/body. Swearing produces a negative stimulation on their mind. When someone expresses negativity harshly with a swear/cuss/curse word they are creating a negative influence. It increases their levels of anger and depression. If someone who never cursed or even never expressed their disappointment when something negative happened, they would remain focused and cheerful. Compared to someone who expresses their anger/disappointment greatly, they would be in that bad mood all day. Remember, bad moods spread; though good moods are also infectious. Keep a light and airy mood, don't use words of negativity(You know what they are, they are defined in the dictionary if you need help) because no one like being around a sour-puss.
-Gandolf
your being elitist which makes you a douch bag, swearing is what men do, grow up, noone can influence how i feel by swearing thats stupid
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Do men also make fun of others by calling them vulgar names and stereotyping them? No. Real men don't do those, only those who have no consideration for anyone besides themselves.
You see, real men are kind. They are compassionate, loyal, and trustworthy. That is what defines a real man. Do they get drunk or lay with a different woman each night? No. They follow a guideline that describes who they are and what they want to be. So what makes you a man? Age? No. Seniority? No. You are a real man when you know what it feels like to be in their shoes. You understand what others go through and you respect them. Real men aren't some bulky tough guys, real men are those who cry with a friend; they comfort their wife/girl friend when needed. They know when to keep their mouth shut and when to back off. Yet they protect what they know and love deeply.
A real man is a man that will sacrifice himself for others with no thought for his own life. He will stand for what he believes is right and just, though will not back down.
Those are the qualities of a real man. So are any of us real men? Possibly, although we could all use some growing up. When we strive with all our strength to be the best, that is when we know that we are one step closer to being a real man.
-Gandolf
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Calling someone a douche bag makes you a douche bag, douche bag... crap this makes me a douche bag! Its an infinite loop!
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You see Gandolf, swear words exist to describe people like EqwanoX.
I'll suppress my epic rage at his post, and just say that Gan, despite our differences, you have just gained +20 respect points.
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*Continues to go through infinite loop.*
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Do men also make fun of others by calling them vulgar names and stereotyping them? No. Real men don't do those, only those who have no consideration for anyone besides themselves.
You see, real men are kind. They are compassionate, loyal, and trustworthy. That is what defines a real man. Do they get drunk or lay with a different woman each night? No. They follow a guideline that describes who they are and what they want to be. So what makes you a man? Age? No. Seniority? No. You are a real man when you know what it feels like to be in their shoes. You understand what others go through and you respect them. Real men aren't some bulky tough guys, real men are those who cry with a friend; they comfort their wife/girl friend when needed. They know when to keep their mouth shut and when to back off. Yet they protect what they know and love deeply.
A real man is a man that will sacrifice himself for others with no thought for his own life. He will stand for what he believes is right and just, though will not back down.
Those are the qualities of a real man. So are any of us real men? Possibly, although we could all use some growing up. When we strive with all our strength to be the best, that is when we know that we are one step closer to being a real man.
-Gandolf
What are your sources for the definition of a real man?
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I guess my one and only source for all this... is from my heart. With all the experiences, pain and strife in this world; that is what it has told me for a man to be a real man.
Though after searching on google just now, I found some real concerns from people.
What women think a real man is... (http://www.midweek.com/content/columns/theyoungview_article/what_really_makes_a_real_man/)
A real man by eHow... (http://www.ehow.com/how_2120896_be-real-man.html)
Fathers day: Real Man... (http://oregonfaithreport.com/2009/06/fathers-day-what-is-a-real-man/)
News Stream: A real man... (http://www.newstreamz.com/2008/09/10/what-is-a-real-man-the-quest-for-authentic-manhood/)
There are also many more out there.
-Gandolf
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To qualify as a real man, you've got to be black, have a nickname of Red, and been at Shawshank for decades.
I'm far off attaining that goal :(
Maybe our trouble is that most of us here are still teenagers. We'll grow up, it'll happen - but now? I want a good time, so I'm going to go and decorate some cakes...
...then I'm gonna be a man and get a job with a saw!
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Real men carry tools.
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Here is some censored television for your viewing pleasure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43o5IhAcec
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That was unsatisfactory comedy.
http://www.youtube.com/v/WVk8LShtpg8&hl=en&fs=1&
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE
This one really isn't that big a spoof of Apple or Steve Jobs when you think about it.
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That reminds me of this. It's a Harry Enfield sketch with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs 'getting along' :P
http://www.youtube.com/v/WrhmWkRfyAI&hl=en&fs=1&
"...you know how much they love a kiss Intel story...". God, that's such an awful joke.
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Ridiculous example of censorship on Craigslist:
http://houston.craigslist.org/zip/1258737546.html
I can't type the city because Craigslist thinks I'm typing obscenities.
Because the name of the city is DICKINSON.
And if you type it on this forum it appears as DICKINSON!
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Well, how many people here live in DICKINSON?
Actually, the presence of swear blockers here makes it funnier. If you want to bypass the filter, the words in question have to be in bold or italics...
[size=24]I will test this with other words below; children or people offended by the presence of swearing, please do not read the below text (which will scroll)[/size]
text missing
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http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&q=mianus&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hl=en&sll=41.043888,-73.591111&sspn=0.020197,0.038418&ei=7rpUSoO5EJKeM7KtwdUG&cd=1&cid=41043889,-73591111,16500065845524367417&li=lmd
mianus
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The YaBB filter is stupid. All you have to do is insert some YaBB Code in the middle of the swear word. One trick is to make the whole word look bold.
DICKINSON
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You don't even need the spaces.
Nevermind, YaBB was displaying your post wrong...
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Fuck is not allowed.
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Damn is uncensored. The f word should still be censored though.
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You smell like an ass.
Ass is a proper term for donkey.
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Yes, though I would see no relevant reason to use that word unless insulting someone or cussing.
-Gandolf
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How is it not relevant? Its an accepted word for an animal. I've even heard it used on a carton for kids.
Bitch is also an accepted word for an animal.
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I don't know you don't walk up to someone's pregnant dog and say that's a nice bitch you got there. At least I don't...
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But you can.
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Those words have close to no use on this forum.
-Gandolf
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It doesn't matter, its called freedom of speech. If someone chooses to use those words, they have every right to.
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Yeah but words can hurt. Racist slurs, insults, etc.
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Insults aren't required to have bad words, an insult is an insult either way. A cuss word doesn't mean the person is insulting someone else.
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I just trapped my finger in the door.
What am I likely to say? Ooh, pussyfeathers?
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Oh crap. Damn.
All uncensored.
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No they're not. penis shit fuck ass is still censored.
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who cares! You can still say it aloud at home, there is nothing stopping you! This forum has the words censored because some people don't want to see them.(I don't care if they are or aren't censored) If you get your finger stuck in the door go ahead and say fuck, but your not going to get it trapped in a door on the internet!
Ass is uncensored ;)
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The internet is serious stuff.
Going off topic, I kind of wish these huge threads where everyone has an opinion on one subject were a bit more easier to deal with. Politics, money, smoking, fuckin' lightbulbs was one we had on Silvernetworks. Why can't this be simple?
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;) Because I'm pushing from the other side.
-Gandolf
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The internet is serious stuff.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/fx78ya.jpg)
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Only two more years and I'll have been online for 10 years. Wow.
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I've been online for over 12 years now.
I think only Al has been online for longer. Maybe Ghost.
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Started in 1994-- so 15 years?
Ghost
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We should stop for a second, and thank Al Gore for his glorious invention of the internet.
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Yes. He deserved that Nobel Prize. ::)
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Do we get a Nobel prize for destroying it?
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Started in 1994-- so 15 years?
Ghost
Did you start off on AOL or any service like that?
My first screen name was Bilbo88 on AOL, but then we were TOSsed off for some stupid reason a few months later, and had to sign up again. My new screen name was Smartkid88 and it has stuck ever since. This was when AOL also gave you full internet access although their browser was pretty lame.
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Do you still go on AIM as Smartkid88? I ought to add you on iChat.
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Did you start off on AOL or any service like that?
My first screen name was Bilbo88 on AOL, but then we were TOSsed off for some stupid reason a few months later, and had to sign up again. My new screen name was Smartkid88 and it has stuck ever since. This was when AOL also gave you full internet access although their browser was pretty lame.
I had dial-up via a WYSE terminal, and I'd hook up to a Sun Solaris machine and use lynx (text only browser) to surf the web.
Ghost
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Do you still go on AIM as Smartkid88? I ought to add you on iChat.
I have to add you to the whitelist.
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I have to add you to the whitelist.
Hey... Oh, yeah. I remember now. That was years ago.